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    N°200 February 2005  

 

    RAZORLAND
Your site presente many items in connection with shaving, but what's about those which make your collection concretely? A little all? You are rather standard collector of one thing, of modeles in particular? (I see that seems to go from the razor to the postcard while passing by the brushes, the advertizing, etc?)

The beginning of this one was more to create an Internet site by plays then of wire out of needle... I feel like to continue with various headings with always like discussion thread... To share the passion of the razor in all its states, of oldest with young person, simplest with more sophisticated without forgetting its wire... Than we sharpen in order to give again its caress to him so that the cheeks become again smooth like the baby's skin. Old papers, books and postcard make it possible to date the objects and to better know this trade which was prosperous and highly respected in old times and which nowadays fell in disuse not to name the barber. In short, I am a collector on the topic of shaving called a "rasophile".
The departure of your collection : Why do you collect shaving's items or in connection with shaving? ( Is your at the base of this collection? A blow of heart one day for a razor, a badger, a packing? a mark? a technology? Which was the catch for you?)
My training of chemist does not have a direct bond with the collection undertaken except the motivation to perhaps seek and find a such researcher. It is by a cold Sunday of winter in Montreuil that I found this first limps chrome or one could see oneself as in a mirror. At the interior was two cases to receive the new and worn blades as well as an anonymous safety razor. I thought of finding an object of medicine or of chemistry but the destiny wanted that it was a razor. Then the lucky find of a second followed of one... continued until now. This first physical object must be to associate a psychic catch, Freud could help me to find this bond...
Since how long collect some you and how much have you (approximately) parts?
This passion began in 1977 leaving place with the collections from childhood (stones, ball, capsule of soda [ which was used to play football! ], soldier, stamp, data base). It was not the number which counted at the time. Now, I still do not like to count I say only that I collect. I am very below large collectors. For example certain Italian has some 30 000 wrapped blades (the first French collector holds 17 000 of them). German collects 1000 shavers. American has 800 stroppers. Another French has 850 safety razors. I do not know those of the straight razors and of shaving sticks but the tenth of each collection would be already a good beginning.
Which is your greater satisfaction when you contemplate your collection? (to save an inheritance for example?)
I am attracted by the originality of the forms, of the matters used and of the ingeniousness of the mechanisms used and behind the beauty of the object is hiding place a history page. And then... I am in perpetual research of the razor lost ...
Who are in general the rasophiles? Rather people working in the world of the hairstyle, the mode? Rather men that women, does seem to me?
Each collector has its own course, the average age is at the level of the half-century and is mainly not resulting from the medium of the hairstyle. The parity is far from being reached but it should be said that the wives very often share the passion of their companion (or undergo it!).
Rasophiles are they numerous in France? Do you have much friendly's trade, meetings with foreign rasophiles? (I see that you give many bonds towards foreign sites)
I would say that 100 rasophiles is a real figure which one can easily doubled. I do not count of course the hairdressers who decorate their shop but are not to be strictly accurate collectors with some rare exception. All the bonds of my site were contacted as well as many salesmen on specialized sites (IBazar for the nostalgic ones, Ebay, Delcampe, Aucland, Onatoo...). Two international meetings of collector proceeded this year, one in London in Mars 04 and the other in Ohio, the USA in October 04. The annual meeting of the French collectors organized by the club of Rasophiles d' Oc and Oil (R.O.O) took place with Cournon, Puy de Dôme in April 04.
Do you take part in many exposures?  (in France or except borders)

I practically never expose but took part in the development of a book (unfortunately exhausted) on the shavers. The collection can be at the beginning an egoistic pleasure which should open then, I hope for it, on the external one through club, of demonstration, book or why not by creating its own Internet site: http://razorland55.free.fr. That makes it possible to approach this topic with a multitude of accessible information as well for the neophyte for the informed collector.
Are you useful yourselves sometimes of your razors (or other objects of shavings) old?
 

Never

 

 

I suppose that the number of models of each objects about which you speak on your site, if we think on a world level, must be almost infinite?
It is a little the problem of this collection or the interest. It is a collection open in the way or there is not catalogue indexing all the published articles. One finds mainly is American books or Web sites in the form of data base of collectors which make it possible to locate its collection. Could one of the reasons come from the cost of the edition of a book and perhaps also of the spirit from the French collector?
Do there exist really extraordinary models? curiosities ?( in any field : blade, stropper, cut-thow, electric or straight razor , etc.)
The list would take too a long time to enumerate but one can quote the razors empires, the "L shape or hoe type " razors (Auguste Bain, Protector, Fontaine), the stroppers with original mechanisms (pandora, rappidaffu, rotello, edla) without forgetting some shavers of the beginning of XX (dynam, racine) which have a handle containing a small engine making it possible to make vibrate a head of the safety razor type. They are the ancestors of the shavers before the operational razor of colonel Schick deposits his patent into 1928 before launching it on the market in 1931.
I notice the importance of packing and/or boxes. They are often very beautiful. Which is? - or are - the most remarkable sets of your collection, or more amusing. Do the box and the packing develop the item, I suppose?
It is true that nickelled metal or leather jewel cases are attractive (Kindal, Wilkinson, Roberts...). a box made some like the mahogany tree for the development of ancient toilet bag has  also its charm. The razor remaining the principal part of this unit, the box is only the protection of the contents and allows its development.
It seems to exist graphics in connection with  actuality or date time's atmosphere precisely as obviously the case for wrappred blades, isn't it? Which are most beautiful and funniest, those which seem to us today absolutely eccentric? (I see that this packing was rather close to l actuality and the ambient mentality of the moment during which they were marketed - what makes this packing of invaluable testimonys - and often of small very artistic works)

The wrapped blade is really a topic of predilection for the advertising executives. Many topics were approached such as the voyage with the boats (Ile de France with many alternatives), the animals (elephant, parrot, the cock, horses), advertising blade of the proprietary medical products (articio, asthmedrine, canteïne, ephedrolenol), etc... In this connection the club of the R.O.O republished its catalogue of the envelopes of French razor blades decorated with some 2000 blades with indexed.
The beauty of the boxes: what you nowadays know createurs of these boxes (one would speak about "designer" - for does the perfumes for example, one count great names, that the case of the Lalique glassmaker who made bottle manufactures for Nina Ricci...). Exist there a complete box "mythique" whose all the rasophiles revent?
 
The interesting boxes of the weekly type are always snuffed collectors. Those were composed of a number of blades which can go from 2 for a pair up to 7 is a blade for each day of the week. The boxes empires are majestic but very expensive. To remain simple, the case of the barber of Seville (or his/her companion Figaro) with his typical razor of the Thirties is an appreciated part.
Which was your more beautiful lucky find (all confused objects)?
The king of razors EDLA of the Thirties is a model of originality and is an invention of French Rivière.

 

 

Have a clear preference for one topics of your collection? If so, why?

The L shape razors dating from the end of the XIX, are with my prettiest direction intermediate bus between the right razor (or cut-throws) and the safety razor (also to blade at the end of hoe but XIX, at the beginning of XX such as the taillefer, spark, perfector, jak then mechanical (appollo, bohin, famex, the razor of Eve, kabrand, the cock) to quote only these

When do the objects date which make your collection?

from - 800 BC to 1970.

 

 

I saw that the materials which compose the razors, the brush, etc, went from the simple components (wood and iron) to the invaluable component (undoubtedly does exist about it out of gold...?) Which are the objects of the large most invaluable marks, most prestigious?
The "tabletiers-gainiers" produced marvellous small cases "memory" of the XVIIIème century to sumptuous necessary of the Napoleonean period until the apotheosis of the middle-class productions of the second part of XIXème. These boxes were made up of acajou massive, net and trimming brass, container of many metal "doubled" parts; money, ivory, ebony and steel. Other swivelling hinge boxes containing the razors assembled out of ivory and blazon money or of the protective cases in morocco with long grains gilded with small irons. The blades can be signed Gavet which was a cutler of Louis XVI in turn, Napoleon 1st and Louis XVIII. Razors of the Master-coutelliers: "Gillet with Paris" 1800, MONGET in Langres Paris circa 1810, Kindal 1900.
Which are most required (either for their scarcity, or for luxurious materials which composes them). - Which item do you dream to supplement your collection?

In each collection, There are always rare parts which evolve/move according to your state of advance but which remains nevertheless rare. The part more coveted is always that which you do not have yet... One cannot quote all the articles so much being of an interest they are numerous. To quote only three of them, the following models are to regard as very rare: the shaver prototype Zefir de1938 of Philips and the razor of French Jean-Jacques Perret of 1762 who is the precursor of the safety razor before Gillette, in 1895, does not take up the idea with its disposable blade razor. It was written on the blade "Neither sharpening Nor setting". In the spirit, this blade was precursory concept taken again and developed by the baron Bic in 1975 of the disposable razor

The razors: to find and maintain them?

Where you find most easily what to feed your collection: vacuum-attics? secondhand trades? antique dealers? sale-room? exchanges? clubs and associations of rasophiles, by Internet?
It is necessary to diversify to the maximum the places or one can find a part. Flea market with the vacuums attics while passing by the secondhand trades without forgetting the antique dealers, to also think of the traditional biddings and those of the Web are to be explored. The small advertisements of Aladdin will supplement the grounds of investigation.
Without giving your small secrecies: are you a keen chinor who leaves to hunting each Sunday on several vacuum-attics? Rather a sedentary who treats from now on his exchanges and his purchases by Internet? Did Internet become impossible to circumvent today to pack your collection?
There is unfortunately no miraculous formula. I have stories or 2 of my more beautiful parts were found at 10h00 and midday respectively. I am despite everything one raises early because I benefit better from the days. The nature which rises is always beautiful to see and the odors of the morning are incomparable...
Between rasophiles: rather purchases or rather of the exchanges? A balance between the two?
Unfortunately the circuit of trading is weak because of the correspondence of exchange with the same object quality is some times hard to realize for the beautiful parts. On the other hand the exchanges of wrapped blades go good train "all over the world".
Can you give me an idea of the prices on the current market? A price range on some objects (in good condition general - let us say on a dozen items)
It is one of the topics of which I do not like to approach because the readers are always influenced by appreciations of collectors which are not always objective or go even until the higher bid! The estimates must hold account of the mode, of the scarcity of the objects which is a function of produced volume and to pay attention to these affluent speculators who buy the item without the history. I am personally more for the magic of still being able found " objects; good market " and to leave a chance with the " small " collector... It should all the same be said that the market was internationalized by the means of site of auction sale (standard Ebay, Delcampe...) and that this universalization made multiplied by ten the prices for certain part! Well on ebay is a scale of price but rather the high fork except particular case the (big) deal is still always possible...
Is this an accessible collection (within the framework of an  average collection with objects of good quality) for modest budgets?
We can say that this collection is accessible initially but depends thereafter on the progress report of its collection and its motivation to found.
Apart from the razors found complete in excellent state, how to make repair an old razor? Can one find easily parts? Do there exist specialized repairers? " I saw the ad of a "hospital for razor". Does it always function?
Best is to leave it in its juice. A simple cleaning to preserve it corrosion will be to carry out so that it thus finds the history which it lived. I do not know this private clinic but I think that it repairs the shavers. Repair will cost increasingly more expensive than to found another functioning model!
How do you protect the objects from your collection? (album, window, etc?) How do you maintain your objects? What is necessary to make and especially not to make to maintain certain major parts?
The razor blades can be arranged in sorter of a numismatic type with small pockets of plastic arrangement without chlorine and by taking care of good paraffin the blades. This precaution must be also made for certain type of right razor to avoid oxidation. The arrangement in a dry and ventilated place is preferable. The windows are also advised for protection against dust, greases and to avoid the exposure to the rays of the sun as well as moisture.
How do you maintain your objects? What is necessary to make and especially not to make to maintain certain major parts?
Their of the scouring of certain oxidized blade of straight razor (or cut-throat), to use iron wool zero triple. This one withdraws rust and raye not too steel. On the other take care in Miror to clean the blade of certain blade which contains engravings!
Do you copies on the market? Bad repair items; ? So not, do you think that the market is absolutely healthy?
The market is relatively healthy. Certain enamelled irons are duplications the old ones, it is then necessary to be wary of the purchase price. On the other hand it sometimes happens to find objects bad repaired but such broken, to inspect your part well before acquiring it.
Which councils (two or three) would you completely give to a person beginner who would like to begin a collection?
To surf on the wire of the website http://razorland55.free.fr to discover a world not at all bored!

 Then to try to find the items with a good report/ratio price quality so that there is fun and to think that a collection is not built in one day. It is rather a life style which can be transformed into a passion and take the whole life...

Good lucky find

Full Interview carried out by Sylvie Michon for ALADDIN

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